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Háje/Příbram online resources for 1800s

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Posted to Message board on June 27, 2024 by Randy Skopecek.
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Hello,

I was looking for what resources are available to search records online for ancestors who supposedly lived in Haje.  I have some pieces of information of one who was born around 1881-1883 there and their family had a farm.

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Comment by CGSIuser55 on July 2, 2024 at 5:29am

Also, here is a link to the Cadastral tax map for Háje, near Příbram that originally dates back to 1839.

https://ags.cuzk.cz/archiv/openmap.html?typ=omc&idrastru=B2_a_4C_1883_4

Wait for the image to load (sometimes it loads slowly). Then zoom in until you can see the house numbers in the village areas and land plot numbers.  Cadastral tax maps for some villages include names on the parcels, but this one does not. After you locate a family member entry in the parish records (see my prior comment about accessing the online parish records for Háje), make sure to note the house number. Then you can look for that house (and matching land plot) number on this Cadastral tax map. You can also right-click in certain places on the archive site and select "translate to English".  Also click on "Legend to the map."  Pat

Comment by rskopecek on October 7, 2024 at 7:09pm

Hello Pat.  I just wanted to say thank you again.  I did not see this second message, but it is most helpful.

Do you know if the house numbers back then (~late 1800's) would be the same as today?  I looked up on the map to find Haje house 5, and did find one listed on Google as well.  Just unsure if overtime any territories were renumbered.

Comment by CGSIuser55 on October 26, 2024 at 5:53am

Houses were re-numbered in some towns and cities, but I don't know specifically about Háje/Příbram.

If you do a Google search of Czech genealogy house numbers, there are a many results. For example, here is an old website post that has some historical info about Czech house numbering:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/back-to-basics-96421800

This wikitree thread also has very useful info: 

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1638233/how-does-building-numbering-work-in-czechia

If you go to mapy.cz (instead of Google maps) and enter Háje 5 (be sure to use the diacritical character), house number 5 shows on the map, along with a small photo in the side panel that you can click on to see the street view. (make sure the result is the Háje near Příbram). Here is the link: 

https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?q=H%C3%A1je%205&source=addr&id=11025875&x=14.0477809&y=49.6759182&z=17

How about mentioning a few names and dates of your ancestors (from Háje) for reference? There are some names on the 1839 cadastral indicator sketches for Háje, including as Wenzel Maresch at land plot #5 (the map is in German), who would probably be Vaclav Mares in Czech. Does that sound like one of your ancestors? Other names on the map are Makowitz, Sinnek, etc. (all written in German). 

Here is the link: (enlarge the map to see the land plot names)

https://ags.cuzk.cz/archiv/openmap.html?typ=skicic&idrastru=BER113018390

Hope this info is helpful to you.

Pat

 

 

 

 

Comment by CGSIuser55 on June 30, 2024 at 3:41pm

FamilySearch.org indicates there are parish records for Háje/Příbram in the online Prague Regional Archives. Log in to familysearch.org (Create a free account if you don't already have one.) Then select SEARCH > RESEARCH WIKI > GUIDED RESEARCH > CZECHIA > I KNOW THE TOWN > H > Scroll down the list to the Háje entry that shows the Judicial District as Příbram. Then click on the PRAGUE REGIONAL ARCHIVES link. 

Or here is a direct link to the archive: https://ebadatelna.soapraha.cz/pages/SearchMatrikaPage?11

In the archive search window enter Háje. Then select Háje - district Příbram and click on SEARCH. Scroll down the results to select the correct parish record book. For example, Slivice book 31 births 1879-1897 includes Háje. Slivice book 32 is marriages. (etc.) Sometimes there are also indexes.  Pat